Earlier today, Barbara Dragich, the leader of Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos (VDONAC), and other leaders of that group, met with Mr. Mike Rosenthal and some of his associates in the San Pedro offices of Councilwoman Janice Hahn.
A representative of Ms. Hahn was present at the meeting and remained firm that the Councilwoman would stand strongly with the neighbors living in the area, to find a way that all parties in the many issues find ways to compromise.
A reliable source indicated that Mr. Rosenthal has retained Svornich and Associates for representation and a member of that organization attended the meeting along with a few other associates of Mr. Rosenthal's.
Nothing was decided at the meeting, on the part of the neighbors. Mr. Rosenthal did apparently have some plans (for what, is anybody's guess) but had been 'advised' not to present them (from whom this advise came, I do not know, but my source believes the "advise" came, possibly, from Svornich's office).
For those of you not familiar with the name, Svornich, Rudy Svornich served as an L.A. City Councilman representing the 15Th District of L.A., which San Pedro is part of. Mr. Svornich and his associates also have a history of being retained by Bisno Development LLC, to assist lobbying efforts on the Ponte Vista at San Pedro project.
The process of creating a "Q Condition" on the three lots currently zoned C1-1XL is continuing. If the "Q Condition" is placed on the three lots, it means that construction is restricted, on those lots, to allow for only residential units that are comparable or compatible with existing residential units in the neighborhood. Since the vast majority of residential units in the neighborhood are single-family, detached houses, one per lot, then only a total of three single-family, detached houses could be built on the three lots that are currently zoned C1-1XL.
Simply having a meeting between the developer(s) and neighbors is not going to stop the processes from moving forward.
Plans continue to purchase lawn signs for neighbors and even non neighbors, to place on their front lawns a demand that NO CONDOS are built on the corner of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue. It is strongly hoped that every neighbor wants to show their support for VDONAC's efforts by placing a sign for all to see.
Buttons stating the same thing will be created and everyone will be encouraged to show their support throughout OUR community by wearing a button. I'll get them to Board members as soon as I can, so everyone that wants them, can get them.
The neighbors living in the neighborhood will make the decision on whether to accept the latest compromise from Mike Rosenthal, for a total of 10 houses, or whether they will keep their current demand for a total of six-single-family, detached houses, one per lot, on the six lots now owned by Mr. Rosenthal and possibly others.
Of course, the neighbors could also suggest a compromise of their own and present that to Mr. Rosenthal and see if he will agree to it.
No matter what happens from this point on, please know this, every member of the Vista del Oro neighborhood should be very proud of your efforts so far, and your willingness to go even farther to protect the quality of life in that neighborhood.
Strength in numbers, strength in conviction, strength in purpose, strength in character, the neighbors are willing to do what is necessary, now and in the future.
Monday, February 11, 2008
Friday, February 8, 2008
New Compromise Offer
Mike Rosenthal has contact the leadership of Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos with a new proposal. Also now he is willing to meet with the leaders of the group to review the compromise proposal.
Mike wants the neighbors' blessing on having just two single-family, detached houses on the south-east corner of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue.
His proposal for the north-east corner of that intersection is to construct two units on each of the four lots that made of the footprint in the store's building and the adjoining parking lot.
The total of units would be ten residential dwellings.
Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos have set their demands, at this time, for having only six single-family, detached houses on lots that made up the store's footprint and the two parking lots.
It should and must be up to the neigbors living in that neighborhood to either accept Mr. Rosenthal's proposal, study it further, come up with a counter compromise, or reject the offer.
R Neighborhoods Are 1 will back whatever the neighbors vote for.
Mr. Rosenthal has scheduled a meeting with some leaders and others to consider his proposal. At that meeting, he will probably be presented with pages and pages of filled out petitions that state the demand that NO CONDOS will be approved of at the corner in question.
I need to state a point of fact here. Just about everybody has traveled by The Cape. It is the cluster of small-lot single-family dwellings at 19Th Street and Western Avenue.
The Cape features small houses, basically no yards, and some common areas. Here is the little fact you may not know. The Cape is a condominium development. Those houses and undivided open spaces are legally considered to be in a condominium area.
Whether Mr. Rosenthal and/or the neighbors dealing with the former McCowan's Market site will suggest what are sometimes called "Patio Homes" or not, it a decision Mr. Rosenthal and the neighbors get to decide.
Whatever happens, I don't think we have seen another neighborhood take such quick and strong action since John McCowan thought about building condominiums in 1992. Oh yea, it is the same neighborhood!
San Pedrans and residents of other local communities can look with a great amount of pride at that neighborhood and those neighbors who stood up, shouted, organized, and said what they needed to be said. They got their messages throught to Councilwoman Hahn, her staff members, and the owner(s)/developer(s) of the site.
Whatever happens by Monday evening, I should be able to post the outcome on this blog.
Mike wants the neighbors' blessing on having just two single-family, detached houses on the south-east corner of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue.
His proposal for the north-east corner of that intersection is to construct two units on each of the four lots that made of the footprint in the store's building and the adjoining parking lot.
The total of units would be ten residential dwellings.
Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos have set their demands, at this time, for having only six single-family, detached houses on lots that made up the store's footprint and the two parking lots.
It should and must be up to the neigbors living in that neighborhood to either accept Mr. Rosenthal's proposal, study it further, come up with a counter compromise, or reject the offer.
R Neighborhoods Are 1 will back whatever the neighbors vote for.
Mr. Rosenthal has scheduled a meeting with some leaders and others to consider his proposal. At that meeting, he will probably be presented with pages and pages of filled out petitions that state the demand that NO CONDOS will be approved of at the corner in question.
I need to state a point of fact here. Just about everybody has traveled by The Cape. It is the cluster of small-lot single-family dwellings at 19Th Street and Western Avenue.
The Cape features small houses, basically no yards, and some common areas. Here is the little fact you may not know. The Cape is a condominium development. Those houses and undivided open spaces are legally considered to be in a condominium area.
Whether Mr. Rosenthal and/or the neighbors dealing with the former McCowan's Market site will suggest what are sometimes called "Patio Homes" or not, it a decision Mr. Rosenthal and the neighbors get to decide.
Whatever happens, I don't think we have seen another neighborhood take such quick and strong action since John McCowan thought about building condominiums in 1992. Oh yea, it is the same neighborhood!
San Pedrans and residents of other local communities can look with a great amount of pride at that neighborhood and those neighbors who stood up, shouted, organized, and said what they needed to be said. They got their messages throught to Councilwoman Hahn, her staff members, and the owner(s)/developer(s) of the site.
Whatever happens by Monday evening, I should be able to post the outcome on this blog.
Wednesday, February 6, 2008
McCowan's Site Issues Continue to Change
It seems almost every other day, the owner(s)/developer(s) of the properties formerly used for McCowan's Market on 20Th Street and Walker Avenue come up with a different idea.
Here is a recap:
Between 15-18 condominium units on the lots currently zoned C1-1XL and three-single-family,detached houses on the three remaining lots, currently zoned for only that type of housing. That would allow for a total of 21 residences.
Duplexes on all six properties, which would require a zoning change for at least two of the lots zoned for only single-family housing. That would allow for a total of 12 residences.
Duplexes on the three lots currently zoned C1-1XL, a duplex on the lot currently zoned R1-1XL on the same side of the street as the three-C1-1XL lots. Building only single-family, detached housing on the two lots on the south-east side of the intersection of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue. That would allow for a total of 10 residences.
The Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos (VDONAC) have demanded that only single-family, detached housing be built on each one of the six lots that make up the eastern corners of the intersection. That would allow for a total of 6 residences, all of the same type of housing.
"Little" issues have been brought to the attention of the owner(s)/developer(s) who have been informed about some of the following ways they may be thwarted:
With backing by Councilwoman Janice Hahn, the processes for placing a Q Condition on the lots currently zoned as C1-1XL, are moving forward and could be voted on in a matter of just a few months. The application of the Q Condition would restrict development on the three C1-1XL-zoned lots to having only dwellings built on the lots comparable to what is found on the majority of lots in the local neighborhood; Single-family, detached residences.
It is estimated that construction of underground parking that would be required for condominiums to be built on the former market's site would be approximately $40,000 per space and that, at least, 2.25 spaces are required for each 2-bedroom condominium units built above the underground parking.
A zoning change to allow for duplexes to be built on two of the three lots currently zoned only for single-family, detached housing could take 18 months.
It appears that there is growing opposition to whatever the owner(s)/developer(s) are coming up with, just about every day.
The owner(s)/developer(s) have the right to begin construction of apartments on the three lots currently zoned as C1-1XL, almost immediatly after the old market is demolished and hauled away, but they have not, as yet, submitted plans to build apartments.
The owner(s)/developer(s) have already claimed a hardship in print because they claim they are willing to "leave money on the table". Remember, nobody can lay "money on the cash register", for groceries, because McCowan's is gone.
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The neighbors living in the area of the Vista del Oro Neighborhood should be the ones voting on whether they should accept ideas from folks they have already stated they have no trust with.
It seems odd to me that a deal that would allow for only 10 total residences is trying to be struck long before any vote on a Q Condition which would allow for only one dwelling per lot on the three C1-1XL-zoned lots.
I have offered several more questions to those who will have the responsibility to vote on any and all compromises or deals. They are the ones that will have to live with their decisions while any and all construction begins.
Should they trust the developer(s)? Two words: Bob Bisno.
Should they wait and follow the progress of the processes that may lead to placing a Q Condition on the three properties? That should be their call.
Should Coastal San Pedro Neighborhood Council and R Neighborhoods Are 1 support the decision made by vote of the neighbors who will be affected for years to come, with whatever they choose to accept? Absolutely, positively YES!
What group would be better served by a wait and see attitude and stance? The neighbors get to have their own say on this one.
Who benefits most from moving processes forward as fast as possible? Again, it the neighbors' and neighborhood's call, I feel.
Who stands to lose the most, by accepting a compromise to a stance already taken? Could it be the neighbors that started VDONAC? Thankfully, this is not my call.
Who is willing to live with their own decision while foundations are poured on whatever is built on the site? I am willing to support whatever comes from a majority of neighbors polled about the issue. It's their neighborhood, so it must be their call.
What would I do if placed in the same spot about making a call on a compromise? I am not in any hurry to answer this question.
12 is better than 21 and 10 is better than 12. But is 10 better than 6? I'm secure in knowing I don't need to answer this question.
So, what in the heck should the neighbors do? That's easy. Talk, write, meet, argue, debate, join together, seek counsel from elected leaders and their representatives, and be the strong neighborhood they have already shown they are. Be proud of the accomplishments VDONAC and the neighbors have continued to do.
Remember, there is one "decider" who didn't want to "rush to judgement" even long after "mission accomplished" was viewed by millions of Americans.
Here is a recap:
Between 15-18 condominium units on the lots currently zoned C1-1XL and three-single-family,detached houses on the three remaining lots, currently zoned for only that type of housing. That would allow for a total of 21 residences.
Duplexes on all six properties, which would require a zoning change for at least two of the lots zoned for only single-family housing. That would allow for a total of 12 residences.
Duplexes on the three lots currently zoned C1-1XL, a duplex on the lot currently zoned R1-1XL on the same side of the street as the three-C1-1XL lots. Building only single-family, detached housing on the two lots on the south-east side of the intersection of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue. That would allow for a total of 10 residences.
The Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos (VDONAC) have demanded that only single-family, detached housing be built on each one of the six lots that make up the eastern corners of the intersection. That would allow for a total of 6 residences, all of the same type of housing.
"Little" issues have been brought to the attention of the owner(s)/developer(s) who have been informed about some of the following ways they may be thwarted:
With backing by Councilwoman Janice Hahn, the processes for placing a Q Condition on the lots currently zoned as C1-1XL, are moving forward and could be voted on in a matter of just a few months. The application of the Q Condition would restrict development on the three C1-1XL-zoned lots to having only dwellings built on the lots comparable to what is found on the majority of lots in the local neighborhood; Single-family, detached residences.
It is estimated that construction of underground parking that would be required for condominiums to be built on the former market's site would be approximately $40,000 per space and that, at least, 2.25 spaces are required for each 2-bedroom condominium units built above the underground parking.
A zoning change to allow for duplexes to be built on two of the three lots currently zoned only for single-family, detached housing could take 18 months.
It appears that there is growing opposition to whatever the owner(s)/developer(s) are coming up with, just about every day.
The owner(s)/developer(s) have the right to begin construction of apartments on the three lots currently zoned as C1-1XL, almost immediatly after the old market is demolished and hauled away, but they have not, as yet, submitted plans to build apartments.
The owner(s)/developer(s) have already claimed a hardship in print because they claim they are willing to "leave money on the table". Remember, nobody can lay "money on the cash register", for groceries, because McCowan's is gone.
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The neighbors living in the area of the Vista del Oro Neighborhood should be the ones voting on whether they should accept ideas from folks they have already stated they have no trust with.
It seems odd to me that a deal that would allow for only 10 total residences is trying to be struck long before any vote on a Q Condition which would allow for only one dwelling per lot on the three C1-1XL-zoned lots.
I have offered several more questions to those who will have the responsibility to vote on any and all compromises or deals. They are the ones that will have to live with their decisions while any and all construction begins.
Should they trust the developer(s)? Two words: Bob Bisno.
Should they wait and follow the progress of the processes that may lead to placing a Q Condition on the three properties? That should be their call.
Should Coastal San Pedro Neighborhood Council and R Neighborhoods Are 1 support the decision made by vote of the neighbors who will be affected for years to come, with whatever they choose to accept? Absolutely, positively YES!
What group would be better served by a wait and see attitude and stance? The neighbors get to have their own say on this one.
Who benefits most from moving processes forward as fast as possible? Again, it the neighbors' and neighborhood's call, I feel.
Who stands to lose the most, by accepting a compromise to a stance already taken? Could it be the neighbors that started VDONAC? Thankfully, this is not my call.
Who is willing to live with their own decision while foundations are poured on whatever is built on the site? I am willing to support whatever comes from a majority of neighbors polled about the issue. It's their neighborhood, so it must be their call.
What would I do if placed in the same spot about making a call on a compromise? I am not in any hurry to answer this question.
12 is better than 21 and 10 is better than 12. But is 10 better than 6? I'm secure in knowing I don't need to answer this question.
So, what in the heck should the neighbors do? That's easy. Talk, write, meet, argue, debate, join together, seek counsel from elected leaders and their representatives, and be the strong neighborhood they have already shown they are. Be proud of the accomplishments VDONAC and the neighbors have continued to do.
Remember, there is one "decider" who didn't want to "rush to judgement" even long after "mission accomplished" was viewed by millions of Americans.
New Email Address
The Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos (VDONAC) has a brand new Email address that you can use to ask for information, write comments to, and use which ever way will assist the group's efforts to stop the weapon of mass development from being push onto that neighborhood by an out-of-town developer.
VDONAC@gmail.com or vdonac@gmail.com will get you to the good folks who can provide information, answer questions, or read comments.
VDONAC@gmail.com or vdonac@gmail.com will get you to the good folks who can provide information, answer questions, or read comments.
Tuesday, February 5, 2008
More News and Information Concerning VDONAC
Approximately 50 neighbors gathered, along with the leadership of the Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos (VDONAC), at a meeting of the Coastal San Pedro Neighborhood Council's Planning and Land Use Committee.
The meeting was held on Tuesday February 5, 2008 during the last two hours when the polls were still open to vote on Super Tuesday. The vast majority of those gathered sported "I Voted" stickers.
During the meeting, Gordon Teuber, an assistant to Councilwoman Janice Hahn answered many questions fielded by committee members and members of the audience.
Mr. Teuber emphasized that the Councilwoman's office would stand behind the demands and goals established by the leaders of VDONAC. Mr. Teuber went on to state that meetings have been held between the developer(s) of the area formerly used as McCowan's Market and its parking lots, and the Councilwoman's office.
No deals have been struct between anyone inside the offices of Councilwoman Hahn and Mr. Teuber stated that Ms. Hahn's offices would assist in any way, the neighbors and neighborhoods in the Vista del Oro neighborhood.
Ms. Hahn's office is closely monitoring the processes that hope to lead to the establishment of a "Q Condition" on the three lots that currently are zoned C1-1XL. The establishment and enforcement of the "Q Condition would restrict building of dwellings on those three lots to be comparable to the dwellings on the majority of properties in the surrounding neighborhood. In essence, only single-family houses could be built on the property, no matter what the current zoning is.
The leaders of VDONAC want you to know that they need everyone to telephone, Email, and write to Councilwoman Janice Hahn, Los Angeles Director of City Planning, Ms. S. Gail Goldberg, Ms. Betsy Weisman, the Director of Planning for the Harbor area, Mayor Villaraigosa, and anyone else who you can think of in trying to curtail this out-of-town's developer's weapon of mass development on the corner of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue.
You are all also encouraged to write letters to the editors of The Daily Breeze and Random Lengths News.
You are also encouraged to make comments on this blog, create your own post for addition to this blog, and visiting http://www.rneighborhoodsare1.org/ for news, information, and contact information.
Donations will be greatly appreciated and in a short time, I will post an address where you may send any donation you wish.
Yard signs have been designed and voted on by the Board of Directors of VDONAC. In about a week, or shortly a bit longer, yard signs will be available stating that there must be NO CONDOS ON 20Th STREET AND WALKER AVENUE!
In a week, the leaders will have buttons which they may request a donation for, that also states that NO CONDOS should be allowed on the corner.
The newspaper article that appeared in the Tuesday February 4, 2008 edition of The Daily Breeze was, unfortunately, not the best reporting work done at the newspaper.
A quote attributed to Ms. Barbara Dragich was used during the confusion by Ms. Dragich who thought the reporter claimed that duplexes were only proposed for the three existing lots that the former market stands and not all six lots owned by the owner(s)/developer(s) of the site.
Also, it appears that Mr. Mike Rosenthal, the recent owner of the former McCowan's Market may have caused the confusion, possibly in an attempt to sway the members of VDONAC. The confusion lasted about two seconds once the Board of Directors of VDONAC heard a more clear interpretation of what the owner(s)/developer(s) really want.
To have duplexes allowed via a zoning change to existing lots zoned for only single-family dwelling would set a very bad and dangerous precedent for the rest of the neighborhoods and could signal a dramatic change in the makeup of an entire neighborhood, many people feel.
Please return to this blog from time to time to learn more about what is going on with the Ponte Vista at San Pedro development, and the redevelopment of the lots on the eastern side of the intersection of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue.
Monday, February 4, 2008
News Release About McCowan's Site
The Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos (VDONAC) has been organized to fight attempts by an out-of town developer to build up to 18 condominiums on the site of the former McCowan’s Market on the corner of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue, in San Pedro.
The group has demanded that only single-family houses are constructed on the three lots currently zoned for that type of housing, the developer now owns. The group also seeks to have only single-family housing built on the three lots that make up the site of the former market’s building.
In a late development, the developer has been found to be considering building duplexes on all six lots. That would require zoning changes for the three lots now zoned for only single-family housing.
VDONAC rejects this latest proposal by the developer because it would set a precedent for other lot owners to convert their single-family zoned lots to lots able to house duplexes or triplexes.
Leaders of the group, along with many neighbors in that affected neighborhood have been asked to attend a meeting on Tuesday February 5, 2008 at the Cabrillo Beach Bath House, at 6:30 PM. At the meeting, neighbors and anyone else may address the Planning and Land Use Committee and help them create a draft resolution to be presented to the Board of Directors of the Coastal San Pedro Neighborhood Council, opposing any condominium development on the corner where the Market formerly operated.
In 1992 neighbors from that area successfully block an attempt to build seven condominium units on the corner of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue that were being considered, at that time, by Mr. John McCowan.
In a very short time, the Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos will have yard signs for display and they will be offered to neighbors all over the San Pedro area who also oppose having condominiums built on the site.
Information about the group and the issues they are dealing with can be found on this site and on the blog: www.rneighborhoodsare1.blogspot.com.
Shortly there will also be an Email address and phone number interested neighbors can call for more information.
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I guess we have to be ready for new tricks coming from the owners/developers, who claimed they wanted to build 18 condominiums on the site of the former market.
Now they want only twelve dwellings. But what they really want is a change of zoning on the three lots zoned for only single-family residences.
This would set a bad precedent for that local neighborhood, many people fear. So many San Pedrans live in homes passed to them by parents or other relatives. What would happen if Joe Schmoe passed away, left his single-family home to Jack and Katie Schmoe and they wanted to change the zoning so they could build a duplex on the site? Would the neighborhood turn into a neighborhood of duplexes or triplexes in the span of one generation?
I don't think the Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos want to be remembered for accepting that kind of change in that neighborhood.
So many lots have single-family homes in that area, that any change at this time, would signal the start of what may be a mass of tear downs and construction of more than one dwelling per lot.
I know a particular banker whos main accounts are finding people who will buy a lot that can be zoned for more than one dwelling, and then have the new buyers tear down a single-family house and build more dwellings on the lot that has a new zoning. It is his right to do his job, but I don't think that particular neighborhood should be subjected to the trauma it would cause so many families that have lived in that area for generations.
Vista del Oro is not like Tarragonna. It is much older and has a quality of life that is distinctive, wonderful and very San Pedro. It doesn't need or should want speculators coming in, buying adjoining properties and attempting to over develop the neighborhood.
The group has demanded that only single-family houses are constructed on the three lots currently zoned for that type of housing, the developer now owns. The group also seeks to have only single-family housing built on the three lots that make up the site of the former market’s building.
In a late development, the developer has been found to be considering building duplexes on all six lots. That would require zoning changes for the three lots now zoned for only single-family housing.
VDONAC rejects this latest proposal by the developer because it would set a precedent for other lot owners to convert their single-family zoned lots to lots able to house duplexes or triplexes.
Leaders of the group, along with many neighbors in that affected neighborhood have been asked to attend a meeting on Tuesday February 5, 2008 at the Cabrillo Beach Bath House, at 6:30 PM. At the meeting, neighbors and anyone else may address the Planning and Land Use Committee and help them create a draft resolution to be presented to the Board of Directors of the Coastal San Pedro Neighborhood Council, opposing any condominium development on the corner where the Market formerly operated.
In 1992 neighbors from that area successfully block an attempt to build seven condominium units on the corner of 20Th Street and Walker Avenue that were being considered, at that time, by Mr. John McCowan.
In a very short time, the Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos will have yard signs for display and they will be offered to neighbors all over the San Pedro area who also oppose having condominiums built on the site.
Information about the group and the issues they are dealing with can be found on this site and on the blog: www.rneighborhoodsare1.blogspot.com.
Shortly there will also be an Email address and phone number interested neighbors can call for more information.
____________________________________________
I guess we have to be ready for new tricks coming from the owners/developers, who claimed they wanted to build 18 condominiums on the site of the former market.
Now they want only twelve dwellings. But what they really want is a change of zoning on the three lots zoned for only single-family residences.
This would set a bad precedent for that local neighborhood, many people fear. So many San Pedrans live in homes passed to them by parents or other relatives. What would happen if Joe Schmoe passed away, left his single-family home to Jack and Katie Schmoe and they wanted to change the zoning so they could build a duplex on the site? Would the neighborhood turn into a neighborhood of duplexes or triplexes in the span of one generation?
I don't think the Vista del Oro Neighbors Against Condos want to be remembered for accepting that kind of change in that neighborhood.
So many lots have single-family homes in that area, that any change at this time, would signal the start of what may be a mass of tear downs and construction of more than one dwelling per lot.
I know a particular banker whos main accounts are finding people who will buy a lot that can be zoned for more than one dwelling, and then have the new buyers tear down a single-family house and build more dwellings on the lot that has a new zoning. It is his right to do his job, but I don't think that particular neighborhood should be subjected to the trauma it would cause so many families that have lived in that area for generations.
Vista del Oro is not like Tarragonna. It is much older and has a quality of life that is distinctive, wonderful and very San Pedro. It doesn't need or should want speculators coming in, buying adjoining properties and attempting to over develop the neighborhood.
Friday, February 1, 2008
Time To Invest in Calendar Books or Electronic Date Reminders
Who says nothing is going on in San Pedro?
If you don't know about this proposed school, you might want to attend the meeting.
A new school proposed to be close to the area of Alma and 30Th Street and on land L.A.U.S.D. already owns near Angels Gate will bring traffic and parking issues into play with the neighborhood of single-family houses and multi-family units, probably on the north side of the old Fort MacArthur Upper Reservation.
It might be a good meeting to attend just to see how L.A.U.S.D. is going to get a large enough route to and from the proposed school site. Will they try and use Alma? Will they try and use the area that now contains the steep and narrow road inside the fence near Gaffey and 31St. Street?
Will they want to condemn two or three single-family homes to clear them out on the north side, to provide and access road to the porposed new school? Will they want to extend Emily, Parker, Meyler, or another street on the south side of the property and into the school site? Where in the heck are they going to put the access?
Perhaps those questions and whether they will provide off-street parking for students, faculty, and staff, or will they do what has been done at S.P.H.S. and not provide enough on-campus parking?
This meeting might be a good chance for the neighbors living on both the north side and the south side of the old reservation to come and learn more about the proposed 1,215- seat senior high school.
And you thought nothing ever happens in San Pedro.
If you don't know about this proposed school, you might want to attend the meeting.
A new school proposed to be close to the area of Alma and 30Th Street and on land L.A.U.S.D. already owns near Angels Gate will bring traffic and parking issues into play with the neighborhood of single-family houses and multi-family units, probably on the north side of the old Fort MacArthur Upper Reservation.
It might be a good meeting to attend just to see how L.A.U.S.D. is going to get a large enough route to and from the proposed school site. Will they try and use Alma? Will they try and use the area that now contains the steep and narrow road inside the fence near Gaffey and 31St. Street?
Will they want to condemn two or three single-family homes to clear them out on the north side, to provide and access road to the porposed new school? Will they want to extend Emily, Parker, Meyler, or another street on the south side of the property and into the school site? Where in the heck are they going to put the access?
Perhaps those questions and whether they will provide off-street parking for students, faculty, and staff, or will they do what has been done at S.P.H.S. and not provide enough on-campus parking?
This meeting might be a good chance for the neighbors living on both the north side and the south side of the old reservation to come and learn more about the proposed 1,215- seat senior high school.
And you thought nothing ever happens in San Pedro.
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